sign up password problems, rejects password even if its conforms to the rules or if I turn off all the password rules, still denies it.
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Ok I had to chose either user or admin approval, the none section that should just let folks in, isn't working right, which it was on.

Disable - None - By User - By Admin
Account activation:
This determines whether users have immediate access to the board or if confirmation is required. You can also completely disable new registrations.